30 | Turning Passion into Muscles | Joshua Bachand


Meet Joshua, a perpetual seeker of fulfillment, who wandered through an array of odd jobs, searching for purpose. Despite the uncertainty, one constant remained—his love for fitness. In the gym, he found solace, a sanctuary where his passion thrived. Joshua took a leap of faith, transitioning into a career as a personal trainer. Guiding others toward their fitness goals became his calling.

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Hey, all.

This is Elyse Robinson
with Nobody Wants to Work, No.


Today, we have Joshua Bunchard.

And go ahead and introduce
yourself, Joshua.

How are you doing?

Thank you, Elyse,
for allowing me to introduce myself.

My name is Joshua Banshaad,
and I’m grateful for this opportunity

to share why I’ve changed
over to what I’ve…

From one career to another.

And I’m actually deep diving
in my purpose, and I’ll share that here.

Yes, I’m a real believer
of walking in your purpose.


So what did you want
to be when you grew up?

Or then, grown up?

So growing up, honestly,

when my stepdad was alive, God rest
and so I thought about being a plumber.

And later on,
as I got older, that idea faded away and

I ended up getting into personal training
because I fell in love with fitness

and wanting to help people
become healthier versions of themselves.

I’m curious, though, why did
you not want to be a plumber?

Because when I was a kid,
I wanted to be a vet.

But I’m trying to sit here
and think why I didn’t want…

Oh, why I didn’t want to be a vet anymore?

Because I learned that they had
to go to school for 15 years.

And I’m like, That is
going to work for me.

Well, I’ve always been very active.

So with me being very active and becoming

a personal trainer I’m helping others
become a little bit more active and get

some energy back that they may have lost
from being out of shape and unhealthy.

So that was more interesting to me.
Got you.

You got to burn up the energy.

Okay, I see.

All right, so where did your career begin?

What was your very first career
before you got the personal training?

Before I bounced around.

I never had a career.

I became a personal trainer.

I’ll Honest, my background is
a lot of street, unfortunately.

But I learned a lot,
and I’m still here and alive and well,

and again, able to walk in my purpose,
which I’m very I’m grateful for.

That’s where my path really entailed.


And what was the catalyst that made
you want to become a personal trainer?

Did you have this thought of becoming
a personal trainer when you were a kid or

something happened that made you
want to become a personal trainer?

Being around people that looked unhealthy
and never being a person that made fun

of overweight people, but look
at them as a way, how can I help them?

Because I love people.

Again, I was always working on training

in the gym,
and I chose to make a career out of it so

I could get paid to help
people get healthy.

That’s funny because as an entrepreneur,
and you hear people talk about, Don’t

make your love or your passion into a

career because you end up hating it.

Do you hate it at any point in time?

I mean, did you think about that?

I don’t think The thing with it is because
I love it, it doesn’t feel like work.

I don’t know because I run into that a
lot of times as I’m an entrepreneur.

One thing that I created during
COVID was a tech freebie website.

I launched it.

I got my first customer,
literally the first day it launched.

I made it to help myself.

Then somebody I knew was like,
You should make money off of it.

I was like, Okay, well, shoot.

Then once I got into doing it, every day,

once a week or whatever,
I started to hate it.

I’m like, This is work,
but maybe I don’t like the work.

Maybe that’s the problem.

It could be it.

I’m not going to say that.

I’m supposed to be rich.

Let me see.

All things come at a cost.

What did it cost you along the way?

Not just as in price,
Do you have any certifications?

Did your family think you were crazy
trying to become a personal trainer

because you don’t have
big muscles or whatever?

No, I mean, I
think there is always a cost.

There’s an investing.

I went from getting several certifications

and studying intensely
because I needed that.

In order to pass.
I’m not the easy.

I’m not the one that retains well.

So there was a whole lot of highlighting,

tutoring, and taking tests several times,
and then finally passing.

And then being able to humble myself
knowing that I’m not going to get paid

faith, nor should I deserve to
at a good rate in the beginning.

So that was a little bit of a
struggle for a short period of time.

So, yeah, getting paid minimum wage.

I mean, not just minimum wage,
it was more so like a sales.

You’re getting bait.

When you’re starting off in the gym as

a personal trainer,
as a newbie in that field, you’re

not getting a wage,
but you’re also not getting clients.

And getting clients is the only way

to make money because
it’s based off commission.

You get a percentage off
of each client that you do get.

So that was definitely a sacrifice.

And getting up early in the morning

to repeat that
day, which would start at 5:00 AM

and maybe end at 6:00,
7:00 PM and then repeat that.

Hoping for a better day the next day.

But I learned a lot.


No, I don’t miss those days.

Don’t miss them at all.

I remember those days.

But you have to put the work
in in order to get to where you are.

I tell people that all the time,
especially the young people.

I don’t know what’s up with these young

people that think that they
don’t have to put in no work.

Then they have this idea in their
head that work is supposed to be fun.

I’m like, Work ain’t
necessarily supposed to be fun.

There’s a very small percentage of people

where they get to live
out the funness of work.

But I say most people just never get that.

The whole definition of work is
a negative connotation with it.

Where do you get off that work
is supposed to be fun?

They complain about stupid things.

They’re not being sexually harassed.

It’s not racial discrimination or gender
discrimination or something like that.

But they’re, Oh, well,
I don’t have any passion for it.

I’m like, But you…

So I’m confused.

It’s different.

But my whole idea of work is
so I can live a certain lifestyle,

and then outside of work, I can pursue
the things that I actually love.

I don’t want my job stress in me,
and my lifestyle has to be good.

That’s why I’m an accountant
because it meshes with my lifestyle.

I don’t really care for accounting 99.

9% of time, but it pays me bills.

Let me see what else.

Let’s see.

You said that you did other things.

What was the process on switching
to being a personal trainer?

Because I understand
that sales is a big thing.

What type of certifications did you get?

How did you get someone to take a chance

on you and say, Hey,
can I be a personal trainer at your gym?


And how did you get someone
to take a chance on you?

Well, to get there,

I had to work all the nends as
far as jobs to make sure that those are

getting paid in the meantime because I
wasn’t living with my parents any longer.

So that waiting on commission,

money still had to come
from somewhere while doing that.

But as far as getting a chance,

I looked around for low-wing gyms
that would just give me an opportunity.

And I’ve always been in good shape.

So that helped.

Did you want to look to Park, too?

And that was always a big deal to me being

being in great shape and being

having experience in those areas.

And as far as certifications,
I got a national certification,

and then I also
I also got a certification in nutrition,

got another one in group training,
and then the rest of it really just came

with experience because the
certifications don’t give you experience.

They give you insight and knowledge on how

to move the body a certain way,
especially in the time.

Because every individual
client is very unique.

So whether they have an injury or they’re
trying to gain muscle,

but they already have muscle,
they want more or they want to lose fat.

It could be dealing with a woman that just

had a baby four, five, six months out
from having a baby.

So it’s always different
dealing with ages as well.

I never trained teenagers
or anything like athletes.

I always train men.

I’m 46 now, but I’ve always trained men
really close to my age.

So I was always training men older
than me when I was in my 30s.

Let’s see.

Yeah, I did physical therapy.

What year is it?

I did six months of physical therapy
because I have tons and tons of injuries.

You do?
I did.


Played sports?

No, I never played sports.


One doctor told me that I have

So my phalanges and stuff move too much.


When I was a kid,
I never did any of that stuff because I

was always scared that I was going
to hurt myself,

which I guess as an adult, it probably was
good that I never did any of that stuff.

I never did too much.

But yeah, no, I did six months
of physical therapy And I loved it.

I love water aerobics,
but that’s my thing.

Water aerobics are good.

Yeah, you’re just floating.

So there’s really no way to really hurt

yourself because I’m
always scared of that.

But what are some positives and what

are some negatives of your career?
How’s it?

This goes on.

Changing lives for the long haul
definitely is the number one positive.

Negatives are I mean, it’s a grind,
especially in the beginning for a while.

It took me…

It got me to a place where
I need to make a decision.

Am I going to keep training in gyms?

Am I going to get my own gym?

Am I going to try and scale my own gym,

start hiring, get a gym and hire
some clients, some other trainers.

that’s probably more of the negative

because at one point,
you need to make a decision.

If you find yourself
Training your life away.

And it was hard.

It was difficult at times
just trying to have some time for myself

or even have time for me to go to the gym
because I’m up at 5:00 and I get a little

break, like early afternoon time,
and then I’m back training again because

you get the next wave of clients that will
come in and be getting out of work.

And then you’re training
them all until the evening.

And that is over and over and over.

I I get a Sunday off, but Saturdays can
be a day where there’s a lot going on.

Then you need to write programs and update
or update programs, create new ones.

So what was your decision?

Money is always there.

The money’s I was there.

But then you can only make
a certain amount of money.

That’s some child.
How much am I going to charge a client?

I can only charge a client so
much to where it makes sense.

And then the other thing is if you’re not

training a client,
you’re not making money.

I can get the money ahead of time,

but if I’m not in front of you,
I’m not making that money.

And at some point, I need to get
in front of you physically.


If someone cancels,
you still get money, right?

Yeah, you got to hope on a cancel.

Where I’m from, it snows.

So we’re used to the snow.

It’s not like it snows.
It’s too cold.

I’m not coming out to meet you at the gym.

I’m like, We’re used to that.

Bundle up when we go.


I’ll call a cancel if it’s
a little drip drop of rain outside.

I’m not coming.

I’m not coming out.

It could be 85 degrees.

I’m not coming out.

So what was your decision?

Did you open up a gym or did
you- I never opened up a gym.

I would just I would run around.

As you know, we have
a train back home in Boston.

So I would go to

these luxury apartment complexes
where there was already gyms

in the bottom,
and then you had the apartments up top.

And I’d meet people,

they’d come off the elevator,
out of the apartment, whatever,

and then I’d meet them right in the gym
and then take off, go to the next one.

And that’s what I did for a while.

And I forgot about COVID.

When COVID came, I lost all my clients,

and that’s when I had to make
a decision of what I was going to do.

But I was already leaning
into it online training.

And so I became an online trainer.

I bought into this program that taught me
how to use this particular software where

you can create programs,
tons of videos on it.

I put them together,

and then I deliver that through an app,
and I still have it to this day.

So now at that point,
clients can now train on their own.

I create a program, I send it to them,
I put it on their calendar,

and they go right into my app
on that particular day and looking

at whatever they’re doing for that day,
whether it be legs or

chest or some upper body workout,
high intensity, whatever I

decided to design their program
or however I decided to design it.

That’s nice.
So what’s the name of the app?

It’s Silverback Fit, like the gorilla.

Silverback fit.

Silverback fit?


I train mostly men.

I trained women in the beginning,
and I chose to get away from that.


I just- put you on the spot.

Yeah, it’s not.

I had some relations early
in the beginning until I realized

that the money wasn’t going
to be made if I took that route.

And that was part of me being a mature.

But then also because I
connect very well with women.

So sometimes sessions were turned into

a stressed-out crying session
because they’re going through it.

I trained different people in stressed-out
jobs, especially in the city in Boston.

There’s a lot of stress.

It’s a fast-paced city, and

The money might come with it, but the
stress comes with it times 10 as well.

And then sometimes people
just can’t handle that.

A trainer can sometimes be a client’s

therapist at times, and it ends up being
like, All right, we need to work out.

We’ve been crying for a half hour.

We’ve been talking for another 15.

You have 15 minutes left on this hour.

What do you want to do?

So with men,
it’s not so much about being a little bit

more rough or like a drill sergeant,
but I can shut it down.

And a lot of times,
men want to get out of it.

They want to get home from work
and just get right to it.

I’m not going to have a man
crying on my shoulder.

And then first thing in the morning,
guys want to just get right to it.

Like, Hey, get out of here.
Hey, what’s up?

Let’s get going.

And then we have a different thing
about it sometimes when it’s man to man.

Got you.

No, you’re stereotyping
the hell out of women.

But I ain’t going to lie,
with all my injuries and issues with my

body, that’s a soft spot for me,
and I will get to crying.

I’ll get to crying real quick.

We can cry, but at some point,
what do we want to do this on another day?

I’ll cry and then probably go home.

I’ll be back.

Because at the end of the day,
I’m getting paid for it.

So I feel bad.

I’m not going to…

We’re taking up an hour out of my day,

but it’s also your hour,
but you’re off to pay for this hour.

And if we’re going to cry and be upset

and talk about things that’s cool,
but I still need to get paid.

And we can’t reschedule because
you’re having a bad day.

You showed up.

You didn’t cancel, you showed up.

So we got to show up and go and just
get it in, get it over with.

Oh, yeah.
No, definitely.

No, I would set a hard line at that.

If you show up, I’m getting paid.

I don’t care if we’re having a cry
session, a talk session, whatever.

I’m getting paid.

So make sure you put
that in your on track.

If you show up, and if you don’t cancel,
I’m still going to get paid.

That’s one thing I don’t play with in
business is I’m going to give me money.

But Let’s see.
I guess that would be some

of the negatives is having to be
someone’s counselor all the damn time.

I know how that can get old.

Let’s see.

What are some traits that would make
someone a great personal trainer?

Having the ability to meet
them where they’re at.

Maybe Let me say, finding common ground.

Finding common ground
and being able to just…

You got to be able
to build a relationship.

I’ve seen trainers,
which I knew I had the advantage over,

but I’ve seen trainers where It’s like
straight face, leaning on a machine.

The whole time you have a client training,

I see them leaning, looking at their
watch, looking at their phone.

I’m like, all of that.

If I’m a client, you’re getting fired.

I catch you doing that one time.

You’re not here to engage with me,
motivate me, push me.

I’m tired and getting ready for work.

Let me get this momentum going
or I just get out of work.

I had a long day.

I need to get a good workout,
and I’m not here to just drag along.

And meeting them where
they’re at, too, again.

So it’s like,
for me, energy is going to change,

but the effort doesn’t,
meaning it’s not a nervous thing for me.

I might not be able to

get as many As much of an ab workout,
the ab workout won’t be as intense maybe

as it was last Wednesday,
but my effort is always going to be there.

So I’m still going to get results.

I’m not going to, Okay, I got 12.

No, That 12 rep, I really felt that.

So that’s just the thing right there.

You got to recognize
being able to recognize where that client

is for that day
and for that particular session.

So that’s what it is.

Meeting them where they’re
at and building good relationship.


What are some tips and tricks you would

give someone that wanted
to be a personal trainer?

Is there any shortcuts they can take?

Start early in life instead
of starting in their 40s?

Somebody wants to start in their 40s?

You always want to,
for one, get a certification.

And get a lot of repetition
as far as starting to train.

When you’re first, clients should be
friends of yours that you can practice on.

Bringing them to your house if you have

a gym in the garage or
going to the gym with them.

That’s a good thing.

And having confidence in yourself,
having belief in yourself,

knowing what you’re doing,
pay attention to what you’re doing,

knowing how to correct somebody’s form and
understand that.

Because what you don’t want

more than anything else is somebody
getting hurt while you’re training them.

What did you wish you knew
before you started this career?

That I wish I knew.

I would say the business side of things.

Yeah, I would say the business side

of things, learning more about
getting like an LLC

and being able to tie all
of that in and getting into tax write offs

and understanding the business side of it,
the the Panua side of it.

I did think so much on the fly,
taking cash, literally.

If I could go back all over and start all

over, I would treat it just as a business
should be treated on the books,

get a LOC, and be consistent in that way,
being better with money.

Just treat it like a business.

Don’t treat it like a hobby.

I’m going to the gym today,
train somebody.

I had that mentality sometime
because clients came to me.

It was easy for me because
it was home for one.

It’s not that I always train people I
knew, but you get a lot of clients based

off of referrals at some point when
you’re doing it for a long period of time.

I think a lot of people struggle

with the business side, and that’s one
of the reasons why I studied accounting.

I took the first accounting class three

times before I was like, and I would drop
it and be like, I didn’t want to do it.

I took it three times before I buckled
down and be like, Hey, get it done.

Then once I started getting into tax

and audit and things like that,
I started to like it.

But that has served me well because
accounting is the language of business.

Everybody wants to know what comes in,

what comes out,
and then tax is a huge one.

With the same.

The only thing guarantee
in life is death and taxes.

I tell people all the time, at least, at
least, to take an intro to business class.

Now we have YouTube and Cocera and all

these other places, Udemy,
where you can take stuff for free.

So there’s really no reason because
they didn’t have all that when I was

a kid, and they surely
didn’t have it when you were.

But I’m showing my age.

But I told me, Well,
at least if you’re going to start

a business, at least take a little
intro to in this class, please.

But outside of that, let’s see.

Yeah, and last question is,

what would you tell someone
that wanted to start this career?

Be ready.

Bring your energy.

Be ready for the grind.

Take care of your body
and make sure that you have some Make

sure that you have either some money put
away already or you already have a job

that can pay you the bills
and that you don’t burn yourself out.

Because what’s going to happen is if you
do have a job that’s paying the bills

and now you’re trying to squeeze in this
new training career, you need time.

It’s going to conflict.

You can’t work a third shift regular job
and get out at…

When would that?

Yeah, then get out at, I don’t know,
6:00 in the morning from in that third

shift job and think that you’re going
to train clients that need you to be there

early in the morning and think
that you can continue that.

So you need to find a balance.

You need to find a balance
and find it quick.

I would say start off with some savings,
maybe three, four, five months,

even six months worth of some bills,
bill money already put away

and then jump into it because you’re
not going to make money right away.

And I realized that in the beginning,

Real quick, actually,
that just because I have this reputable,

highly recognized certification,
doesn’t mean I’m going to put that down

on the counter or at an interview at a gym
and say, okay, They give me my money.

They don’t even know me.

They don’t know me from a hole in a wall,
so I got to show and prove.

It don’t matter regardless of what you’re
doing in life, you get a certification

in anything or a degree in something,
you still have to show and prove.

I thought about being a cook years ago,
and And it was like, you’ll literally come

out of a culinary school
and you might be prepping,

you might even be just helping out
around the kitchen, helping out the chef.

You’re not going to just jump in and start

grabbing on, like grabbing this
bull by the horns right away.

You need to earn that spot.

So be ready.

Be ready for the grind and be
ready to not get paid right away.

You mentioned show and prove.

What does that mean exactly when
it comes to personal training?

When you went to, I’m just going to name

a gym, Planet Fitness
or something like that.

What did they ask you to do in order to
keep your spot instead of giving it to Mr.

Willy down the street?

You need to build
a reputation for yourself.

Your reputation needs to come
with getting clients’ results.

Putting that together,
like having a portfolio

as you train clients,
have clients that We’re not shy in taking

before and after pictures for you
because that’s going to be a big deal.

That’s going to help out a lot.

Recommend referrals.

But yeah, you definitely need to…

You need to build a reputation.



When I started my little entrepreneurship
journey in Mexico, I

came with a substantial amount of money,
I guess, especially Especially for Mexico.

I couldn’t imagine starting a business

in America and having to have savings
because there’s no health insurance.

You can’t just go to the doctor.


You’re all willy-nilly like you can
in Mexico or another country, which is…

After I’ve lived in another country,
it’s really crazy to me.

As someone that has

worked in the healthcare industry,
and I have family members that work

in the healthcare industry,
I gripe about it all the time.

That alone stifles entrepreneurship
in the United States.

But yeah, I’ll totally agree that you
definitely need some savings if you’re

going to pursue probably
pretty much anything in life.

Sure, that new career, entrepreneurship,

whatever, whatever, because
unfortunately, it may not work out.

Anything else you want to say?

I think that’s pretty much it.

And honestly,

if I would say one more thing,
because I’m a true believer

in And that you can love what you’re
doing and make money off of it.

So if

you really want to do something and you
really love whatever that is,

have belief in yourself, pursue it,
be patient, and definitely don’t give up.

And that’s something that’s a part of me

that caused a lot of restarting over
in so many areas in times of my life.

I I say caused a lot of setbacks because

I’ve attempted a couple
of different things.

It’s always a start.

You got to start from scratch again.
You get to start from scratch again.

You get to start from scratch again.

Just really know what you want to do
and then go all out.

Go all out, don’t stop,
and believe in yourself.

No, definitely.

I don’t like to call them setbacks
because everything’s a learning lesson.

It is.

To my point, what I mean is if you’re

starting from scratch every single time,
it is an experience.

But my brother would tell me,
Stay in doing one thing.

Lock in on this and then stay doing that

instead of like, I’m just tired of this
after I just invested money and time.

Whether it be school, because I was going
to be not a therapist, a psychologist.

I went to a community school back home
in Boston for a little bit working with…

I was working with high-risk teens,
and then I stopped going to school.

And then I was like,
What am I going to do now?

I thought about being a bobo.

And I didn’t pursue that.

I should have, could have,
whatever I didn’t.

And then became a trainer.

I see it as you’re trying to figure out

what you want to do,
which is perfectly fine.

And unfortunately, that costs time and it

costs money, and you ain’t
never going to get it back.

But once you find
what it is that you want to do,

you look back and be like,
Oh, it wasn’t really a waste.

You were learning along the way because

you took everything that you did and you
put it in your personal training.

I’m a thousand % sure of that.

But sometimes you got to do that in order
to find where you’re trying be.

When I was in Mexico,
for the first two years, I

told myself I wanted to learn Spanish,
but I wasn’t really learning it.

I just had to, number one,

mourn and number two, just figure
out the lay of the land, basically.

I’m in this huge city,
and I’m finding friends,

and learning where to go to the doctor,
and all that good stuff.

To me, when I was in the thick of it,
I was like, damn, you lost two years.

And I’m like, no, you don’t have to lose
two years because now you know a big-ass

city, and you got people you can kick
it when you go down there all the time.

I have a whole adopted family
and everything else now.

It’s really crazy.

You beat yourself up about it,
but in reality, you really shouldn’t.

So But yeah, that’s just how I see it.

And I agree.

I don’t disagree.

My thing is it’s really good to just own

in on something
instead of bouncing around.

But yeah, you do.

There’s always a positive,
and I do the same.

I always make sure that I see
the positive, the light in that.

It wasn’t a dark time, but I always
make sure that I look for that positive.

And I have a lot
of experiences from in that.

Yeah, definitely.
As long as you’re not hurting yourself or

anyone else, I don’t see
it as a serious loss.

You can get money again.

You may not get that time back,

but you take that experience
and use it probably every day now.

Was it really a loss?

No, it wasn’t.

It’s just your journey.

Just your journey.


All right, Joshua,
we’re going to close it out.

Thank you for coming on the show.

I appreciate it.

Tell me, tell people where to find you.

So you can find me on Instagram at

The last name is spelled B-A-C-H-A-N-D.

It’s the same exact for Facebook.

And all my information is
in there in my profile and my bio.

And look out for my merch.

I’m going to be starting that pretty soon.

It’s actually in the making right now.

I have my logo and everything else,
and we’re putting that out.

And yeah, just pushing along.

So if anybody wants to follow me or learn
anything that I have

that they can possibly be inspired by or
need help in, whatever, let me know.

Easy to reach.
All right.

Thank you, you all for listening,
watching wherever you all at.

My name is Elise Robinson with
Nobody Wants to Work, though, podcast.

And until next time