30 | Turning Passion into Muscles | Joshua Bachand

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Meet Joshua, a perpetual seeker of fulfillment, who wandered through an array of odd jobs, searching for purpose. Despite the uncertainty, one constant remained—his love for fitness. In the gym, he found solace, a sanctuary where his passion thrived. Joshua took a leap of faith, transitioning into a career as a personal trainer. Guiding others toward their fitness goals became his calling.

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Hey, all.

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This is Elyse Robinson
with Nobody Wants to Work, No.

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Podcast.

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Today, we have Joshua Bunchard.

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And go ahead and introduce
yourself, Joshua.

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Hello.
How are you doing?

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Thank you, Elyse,
for allowing me to introduce myself.

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My name is Joshua Banshaad,
and I’m grateful for this opportunity

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to share why I’ve changed
over to what I’ve…

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From one career to another.

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And I’m actually deep diving
in my purpose, and I’ll share that here.

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Yes, I’m a real believer
of walking in your purpose.

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Absolutely.

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So what did you want
to be when you grew up?

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Or then, grown up?
Yeah.

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So growing up, honestly,

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when my stepdad was alive, God rest
and so I thought about being a plumber.

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And later on,
as I got older, that idea faded away and

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I ended up getting into personal training
because I fell in love with fitness

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and wanting to help people
become healthier versions of themselves.

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I’m curious, though, why did
you not want to be a plumber?

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Because when I was a kid,
I wanted to be a vet.

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But I’m trying to sit here
and think why I didn’t want…

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Oh, why I didn’t want to be a vet anymore?

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Because I learned that they had
to go to school for 15 years.

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And I’m like, That is
going to work for me.

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Well, I’ve always been very active.

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So with me being very active and becoming

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a personal trainer I’m helping others
become a little bit more active and get

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some energy back that they may have lost
from being out of shape and unhealthy.

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So that was more interesting to me.
Got you.

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You got to burn up the energy.

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Okay, I see.

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All right, so where did your career begin?

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What was your very first career
before you got the personal training?

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Before I bounced around.

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I never had a career.

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I became a personal trainer.

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I’ll Honest, my background is
a lot of street, unfortunately.

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But I learned a lot,
and I’m still here and alive and well,

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and again, able to walk in my purpose,
which I’m very I’m grateful for.

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That’s where my path really entailed.

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Okay.

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And what was the catalyst that made
you want to become a personal trainer?

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Did you have this thought of becoming
a personal trainer when you were a kid or

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something happened that made you
want to become a personal trainer?

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Being around people that looked unhealthy
and never being a person that made fun

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of overweight people, but look
at them as a way, how can I help them?

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Because I love people.

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Again, I was always working on training

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in the gym,
and I chose to make a career out of it so

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I could get paid to help
people get healthy.

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That’s funny because as an entrepreneur,
and you hear people talk about, Don’t

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make your love or your passion into a

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career because you end up hating it.

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Do you hate it at any point in time?

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I mean, did you think about that?

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I don’t think The thing with it is because
I love it, it doesn’t feel like work.

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I don’t know because I run into that a
lot of times as I’m an entrepreneur.

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One thing that I created during
COVID was a tech freebie website.

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I launched it.

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I got my first customer,
literally the first day it launched.

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I made it to help myself.

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Then somebody I knew was like,
You should make money off of it.

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I was like, Okay, well, shoot.
Yeah.

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Then once I got into doing it, every day,

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once a week or whatever,
I started to hate it.

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I’m like, This is work,
but maybe I don’t like the work.

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Maybe that’s the problem.

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It could be it.

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I’m not going to say that.

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I’m supposed to be rich.

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Let me see.

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All things come at a cost.

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What did it cost you along the way?

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Not just as in price,
Do you have any certifications?

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Did your family think you were crazy
trying to become a personal trainer

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because you don’t have
big muscles or whatever?

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No, I mean, I
think there is always a cost.

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There’s an investing.

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I went from getting several certifications

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and studying intensely
because I needed that.

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In order to pass.
I’m not the easy.

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I’m not the one that retains well.

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So there was a whole lot of highlighting,

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tutoring, and taking tests several times,
and then finally passing.

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And then being able to humble myself
knowing that I’m not going to get paid

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faith, nor should I deserve to
at a good rate in the beginning.

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So that was a little bit of a
struggle for a short period of time.

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So, yeah, getting paid minimum wage.

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I mean, not just minimum wage,
it was more so like a sales.

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You’re getting bait.

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When you’re starting off in the gym as

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a personal trainer,
as a newbie in that field, you’re

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not getting a wage,
but you’re also not getting clients.

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And getting clients is the only way

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to make money because
it’s based off commission.

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You get a percentage off
of each client that you do get.

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So that was definitely a sacrifice.

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And getting up early in the morning

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to repeat that
day, which would start at 5:00 AM

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and maybe end at 6:00,
7:00 PM and then repeat that.

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Hoping for a better day the next day.

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But I learned a lot.

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Yeah.

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No, I don’t miss those days.

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Don’t miss them at all.

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I remember those days.

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But you have to put the work
in in order to get to where you are.

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I tell people that all the time,
especially the young people.

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I don’t know what’s up with these young

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people that think that they
don’t have to put in no work.

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Then they have this idea in their
head that work is supposed to be fun.

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I’m like, Work ain’t
necessarily supposed to be fun.

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There’s a very small percentage of people

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where they get to live
out the funness of work.

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But I say most people just never get that.

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The whole definition of work is
a negative connotation with it.

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Where do you get off that work
is supposed to be fun?

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They complain about stupid things.

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They’re not being sexually harassed.

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It’s not racial discrimination or gender
discrimination or something like that.

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But they’re, Oh, well,
I don’t have any passion for it.

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I’m like, But you…

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So I’m confused.

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It’s different.

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But my whole idea of work is
so I can live a certain lifestyle,

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and then outside of work, I can pursue
the things that I actually love.

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I don’t want my job stress in me,
and my lifestyle has to be good.

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That’s why I’m an accountant
because it meshes with my lifestyle.

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I don’t really care for accounting 99.

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9% of time, but it pays me bills.

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Let me see what else.

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Let’s see.

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You said that you did other things.

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What was the process on switching
to being a personal trainer?

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Because I understand
that sales is a big thing.

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What type of certifications did you get?

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How did you get someone to take a chance

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on you and say, Hey,
can I be a personal trainer at your gym?

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Yeah.

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And how did you get someone
to take a chance on you?

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Well, to get there,

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I had to work all the nends as
far as jobs to make sure that those are

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getting paid in the meantime because I
wasn’t living with my parents any longer.

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So that waiting on commission,

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money still had to come
from somewhere while doing that.

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But as far as getting a chance,

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I looked around for low-wing gyms
that would just give me an opportunity.

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And I’ve always been in good shape.

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So that helped.

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Did you want to look to Park, too?

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And that was always a big deal to me being

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professional,
being in great shape and being

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knowledgeable,
having experience in those areas.

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And as far as certifications,
I got a national certification,

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and then I also
I also got a certification in nutrition,

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got another one in group training,
and then the rest of it really just came

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with experience because the
certifications don’t give you experience.

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They give you insight and knowledge on how

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to move the body a certain way,
especially in the time.

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Because every individual
client is very unique.

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So whether they have an injury or they’re
trying to gain muscle,

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but they already have muscle,
they want more or they want to lose fat.

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It could be dealing with a woman that just

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had a baby four, five, six months out
from having a baby.

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So it’s always different
dealing with ages as well.

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I never trained teenagers
or anything like athletes.

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I always train men.

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I’m 46 now, but I’ve always trained men
really close to my age.

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So I was always training men older
than me when I was in my 30s.

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Let’s see.

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Yeah, I did physical therapy.

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What year is it?
2022.

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I did six months of physical therapy
because I have tons and tons of injuries.

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You do?
I did.

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What?
Huh?

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Played sports?

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No, I never played sports.
No.

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No?
No.

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One doctor told me that I have
hypermobility.

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So my phalanges and stuff move too much.

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Yoga.

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When I was a kid,
I never did any of that stuff because I

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was always scared that I was going
to hurt myself,

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which I guess as an adult, it probably was
good that I never did any of that stuff.

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I never did too much.

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But yeah, no, I did six months
of physical therapy And I loved it.

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I love water aerobics,
but that’s my thing.

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Water aerobics are good.
Great.

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Yeah, you’re just floating.

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So there’s really no way to really hurt

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yourself because I’m
always scared of that.

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But what are some positives and what

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are some negatives of your career?
How’s it?

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This goes on.

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Changing lives for the long haul
definitely is the number one positive.

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Negatives are I mean, it’s a grind,
especially in the beginning for a while.

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It took me…

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It got me to a place where
I need to make a decision.

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Am I going to keep training in gyms?

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Am I going to get my own gym?

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Am I going to try and scale my own gym,

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start hiring, get a gym and hire
some clients, some other trainers.

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So
that’s probably more of the negative

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because at one point,
you need to make a decision.

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If you find yourself
Training your life away.

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And it was hard.

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It was difficult at times
just trying to have some time for myself

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or even have time for me to go to the gym
because I’m up at 5:00 and I get a little

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break, like early afternoon time,
and then I’m back training again because

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you get the next wave of clients that will
come in and be getting out of work.

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And then you’re training
them all until the evening.

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And that is over and over and over.

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I I get a Sunday off, but Saturdays can
be a day where there’s a lot going on.

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Then you need to write programs and update
or update programs, create new ones.

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So what was your decision?

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Money is always there.

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The money’s I was there.

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But then you can only make
a certain amount of money.

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That’s some child.
How much am I going to charge a client?

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I can only charge a client so
much to where it makes sense.

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And then the other thing is if you’re not

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training a client,
you’re not making money.

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I can get the money ahead of time,

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but if I’m not in front of you,
I’m not making that money.

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And at some point, I need to get
in front of you physically.

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No.

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If someone cancels,
you still get money, right?

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Yeah, you got to hope on a cancel.

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Where I’m from, it snows.

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So we’re used to the snow.

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It’s not like it snows.
It’s too cold.

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I’m not coming out to meet you at the gym.

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I’m like, We’re used to that.

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Bundle up when we go.
Yeah.

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No.

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I’ll call a cancel if it’s
a little drip drop of rain outside.

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I’m not coming.

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I’m not coming out.

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It could be 85 degrees.

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I’m not coming out.

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So what was your decision?

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Did you open up a gym or did
you- I never opened up a gym.

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I would just I would run around.

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As you know, we have
a train back home in Boston.

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So I would go to

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these luxury apartment complexes
where there was already gyms

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in the bottom,
and then you had the apartments up top.

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And I’d meet people,

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they’d come off the elevator,
out of the apartment, whatever,

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and then I’d meet them right in the gym
and then take off, go to the next one.

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And that’s what I did for a while.

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And I forgot about COVID.

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When COVID came, I lost all my clients,

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and that’s when I had to make
a decision of what I was going to do.

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But I was already leaning
into it online training.

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And so I became an online trainer.

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I bought into this program that taught me
how to use this particular software where

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you can create programs,
tons of videos on it.

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I put them together,

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and then I deliver that through an app,
and I still have it to this day.

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So now at that point,
clients can now train on their own.

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I create a program, I send it to them,
I put it on their calendar,

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and they go right into my app
on that particular day and looking

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at whatever they’re doing for that day,
whether it be legs or

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chest or some upper body workout,
high intensity, whatever I

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decided to design their program
or however I decided to design it.

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That’s nice.
So what’s the name of the app?

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It’s Silverback Fit, like the gorilla.

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Silverback fit.

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Silverback fit?

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Okay.

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I train mostly men.

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I trained women in the beginning,
and I chose to get away from that.

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Why?

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I just- put you on the spot.

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Yeah, it’s not.

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I had some relations early
in the beginning until I realized

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that the money wasn’t going
to be made if I took that route.

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And that was part of me being a mature.

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But then also because I
connect very well with women.

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So sometimes sessions were turned into

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a stressed-out crying session
because they’re going through it.

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I trained different people in stressed-out
jobs, especially in the city in Boston.

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There’s a lot of stress.

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It’s a fast-paced city, and

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The money might come with it, but the
stress comes with it times 10 as well.

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And then sometimes people
just can’t handle that.

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A trainer can sometimes be a client’s

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therapist at times, and it ends up being
like, All right, we need to work out.

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We’ve been crying for a half hour.

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We’ve been talking for another 15.

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You have 15 minutes left on this hour.

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What do you want to do?

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So with men,
it’s not so much about being a little bit

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more rough or like a drill sergeant,
but I can shut it down.

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And a lot of times,
men want to get out of it.

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They want to get home from work
and just get right to it.

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I’m not going to have a man
crying on my shoulder.

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And then first thing in the morning,
guys want to just get right to it.

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Like, Hey, get out of here.
Hey, what’s up?

[00:18:46.040]
Let’s get going.

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And then we have a different thing
about it sometimes when it’s man to man.

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Got you.

[00:18:54.120]
No, you’re stereotyping
the hell out of women.

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But I ain’t going to lie,
with all my injuries and issues with my

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body, that’s a soft spot for me,
and I will get to crying.

[00:19:07.930]
I’ll get to crying real quick.

[00:19:10.310]
We can cry, but at some point,
what do we want to do this on another day?

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I’ll cry and then probably go home.

[00:19:22.280]
I’ll be back.

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Because at the end of the day,
I’m getting paid for it.

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So I feel bad.

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I’m not going to…

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We’re taking up an hour out of my day,

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but it’s also your hour,
but you’re off to pay for this hour.

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And if we’re going to cry and be upset

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and talk about things that’s cool,
but I still need to get paid.

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And we can’t reschedule because
you’re having a bad day.

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You showed up.

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You didn’t cancel, you showed up.

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So we got to show up and go and just
get it in, get it over with.

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Oh, yeah.
No, definitely.

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No, I would set a hard line at that.

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If you show up, I’m getting paid.

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I don’t care if we’re having a cry
session, a talk session, whatever.

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I’m getting paid.

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So make sure you put
that in your on track.

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If you show up, and if you don’t cancel,
I’m still going to get paid.

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That’s one thing I don’t play with in
business is I’m going to give me money.

[00:20:28.080]
But Let’s see.
I guess that would be some

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of the negatives is having to be
someone’s counselor all the damn time.

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I know how that can get old.

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Let’s see.

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What are some traits that would make
someone a great personal trainer?

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Having the ability to meet
them where they’re at.

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Maybe Let me say, finding common ground.

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Finding common ground
and being able to just…

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You got to be able
to build a relationship.

[00:21:08.530]
I’ve seen trainers,
which I knew I had the advantage over,

[00:21:11.800]
but I’ve seen trainers where It’s like
straight face, leaning on a machine.

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The whole time you have a client training,

[00:21:21.520]
I see them leaning, looking at their
watch, looking at their phone.

[00:21:23.960]
I’m like, all of that.

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If I’m a client, you’re getting fired.

[00:21:27.360]
I catch you doing that one time.

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You’re not here to engage with me,
motivate me, push me.

[00:21:33.170]
I’m tired and getting ready for work.

[00:21:35.970]
Let me get this momentum going
or I just get out of work.

[00:21:38.840]
I had a long day.

[00:21:39.470]
I need to get a good workout,
and I’m not here to just drag along.

[00:21:44.030]
And meeting them where
they’re at, too, again.

[00:21:47.190]
So it’s like,
for me, energy is going to change,

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but the effort doesn’t,
meaning it’s not a nervous thing for me.

[00:21:54.810]
I might not be able to

[00:21:58.720]
get as many As much of an ab workout,
the ab workout won’t be as intense maybe

[00:22:06.110]
as it was last Wednesday,
but my effort is always going to be there.

[00:22:11.250]
So I’m still going to get results.

[00:22:13.440]
I’m not going to, Okay, I got 12.

[00:22:15.030]
No, That 12 rep, I really felt that.

[00:22:19.320]
So that’s just the thing right there.

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You got to recognize
being able to recognize where that client

[00:22:24.910]
is for that day
and for that particular session.

[00:22:28.120]
So that’s what it is.

[00:22:29.250]
Meeting them where they’re
at and building good relationship.

[00:22:34.400]
Communication.

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What are some tips and tricks you would

[00:22:40.830]
give someone that wanted
to be a personal trainer?

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Is there any shortcuts they can take?

[00:22:45.230]
Start early in life instead
of starting in their 40s?

[00:22:52.890]
Somebody wants to start in their 40s?

[00:22:54.790]
You always want to,
for one, get a certification.

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And get a lot of repetition
as far as starting to train.

[00:23:05.810]
When you’re first, clients should be
friends of yours that you can practice on.

[00:23:14.520]
Bringing them to your house if you have

[00:23:16.430]
a gym in the garage or
going to the gym with them.

[00:23:19.930]
That’s a good thing.

[00:23:21.310]
And having confidence in yourself,
having belief in yourself,

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knowing what you’re doing,
pay attention to what you’re doing,

[00:23:27.450]
knowing how to correct somebody’s form and
understand that.

[00:23:31.990]
Because what you don’t want

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more than anything else is somebody
getting hurt while you’re training them.

[00:23:42.760]
What did you wish you knew
before you started this career?

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That I wish I knew.

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I would say the business side of things.

[00:23:59.800]
Yeah, I would say the business side

[00:24:01.750]
of things, learning more about
getting like an LLC

[00:24:06.530]
and being able to tie all
of that in and getting into tax write offs

[00:24:11.190]
and understanding the business side of it,
the the Panua side of it.

[00:24:16.170]
I did think so much on the fly,
taking cash, literally.

[00:24:20.490]
If I could go back all over and start all

[00:24:25.550]
over, I would treat it just as a business
should be treated on the books,

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get a LOC, and be consistent in that way,
being better with money.

[00:24:41.600]
Just treat it like a business.

[00:24:44.000]
Don’t treat it like a hobby.

[00:24:45.120]
I’m going to the gym today,
train somebody.

[00:24:46.990]
I had that mentality sometime
because clients came to me.

[00:24:51.200]
It was easy for me because
it was home for one.

[00:24:53.510]
It’s not that I always train people I
knew, but you get a lot of clients based

[00:24:57.950]
off of referrals at some point when
you’re doing it for a long period of time.

[00:25:04.880]
I think a lot of people struggle

[00:25:07.590]
with the business side, and that’s one
of the reasons why I studied accounting.

[00:25:12.430]
I took the first accounting class three

[00:25:16.270]
times before I was like, and I would drop
it and be like, I didn’t want to do it.

[00:25:22.960]
I took it three times before I buckled
down and be like, Hey, get it done.

[00:25:27.730]
Then once I started getting into tax

[00:25:30.690]
and audit and things like that,
I started to like it.

[00:25:34.970]
But that has served me well because
accounting is the language of business.

[00:25:43.770]
Everybody wants to know what comes in,

[00:25:46.350]
what comes out,
and then tax is a huge one.

[00:25:48.910]
With the same.

[00:25:50.290]
The only thing guarantee
in life is death and taxes.

[00:25:53.960]
I tell people all the time, at least, at
least, to take an intro to business class.

[00:26:02.320]
Now we have YouTube and Cocera and all

[00:26:06.230]
these other places, Udemy,
where you can take stuff for free.

[00:26:10.770]
So there’s really no reason because
they didn’t have all that when I was

[00:26:15.120]
a kid, and they surely
didn’t have it when you were.

[00:26:21.560]
But I’m showing my age.

[00:26:25.050]
But I told me, Well,
at least if you’re going to start

[00:26:28.320]
a business, at least take a little
intro to in this class, please.

[00:26:31.450]
But outside of that, let’s see.

[00:26:39.400]
Yeah, and last question is,

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what would you tell someone
that wanted to start this career?

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Be ready.

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Bring your energy.

[00:26:51.810]
Be ready for the grind.

[00:26:54.320]
Take care of your body
and make sure that you have some Make

[00:27:02.320]
sure that you have either some money put
away already or you already have a job

[00:27:06.830]
that can pay you the bills
and that you don’t burn yourself out.

[00:27:10.880]
Because what’s going to happen is if you
do have a job that’s paying the bills

[00:27:13.790]
and now you’re trying to squeeze in this
new training career, you need time.

[00:27:18.010]
It’s going to conflict.

[00:27:19.930]
You can’t work a third shift regular job
and get out at…

[00:27:24.600]
When would that?

[00:27:26.680]
Yeah, then get out at, I don’t know,
6:00 in the morning from in that third

[00:27:30.350]
shift job and think that you’re going
to train clients that need you to be there

[00:27:34.810]
early in the morning and think
that you can continue that.

[00:27:39.210]
So you need to find a balance.

[00:27:40.890]
You need to find a balance
and find it quick.

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I would say start off with some savings,
maybe three, four, five months,

[00:27:48.210]
even six months worth of some bills,
bill money already put away

[00:27:53.960]
and then jump into it because you’re
not going to make money right away.

[00:27:56.770]
And I realized that in the beginning,

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Real quick, actually,
that just because I have this reputable,

[00:28:07.450]
highly recognized certification,
doesn’t mean I’m going to put that down

[00:28:11.430]
on the counter or at an interview at a gym
and say, okay, They give me my money.

[00:28:16.490]
They don’t even know me.

[00:28:18.080]
They don’t know me from a hole in a wall,
so I got to show and prove.

[00:28:20.160]
It don’t matter regardless of what you’re
doing in life, you get a certification

[00:28:23.310]
in anything or a degree in something,
you still have to show and prove.

[00:28:27.050]
I thought about being a cook years ago,
and And it was like, you’ll literally come

[00:28:31.870]
out of a culinary school
and you might be prepping,

[00:28:35.520]
you might even be just helping out
around the kitchen, helping out the chef.

[00:28:39.230]
You’re not going to just jump in and start

[00:28:41.670]
grabbing on, like grabbing this
bull by the horns right away.

[00:28:45.670]
You need to earn that spot.

[00:28:48.280]
So be ready.

[00:28:49.600]
Be ready for the grind and be
ready to not get paid right away.

[00:28:54.600]
You mentioned show and prove.

[00:28:56.400]
What does that mean exactly when
it comes to personal training?

[00:28:59.440]
When you went to, I’m just going to name

[00:29:01.310]
a gym, Planet Fitness
or something like that.

[00:29:04.490]
What did they ask you to do in order to
keep your spot instead of giving it to Mr.

[00:29:11.030]
Willy down the street?
Repetition.

[00:29:13.480]
You need to build
a reputation for yourself.

[00:29:15.230]
Your reputation needs to come
with getting clients’ results.

[00:29:23.480]
Putting that together,
like having a portfolio

[00:29:27.570]
as you train clients,
have clients that We’re not shy in taking

[00:29:31.020]
before and after pictures for you
because that’s going to be a big deal.

[00:29:34.600]
That’s going to help out a lot.

[00:29:37.510]
Recommend referrals.

[00:29:41.000]
But yeah, you definitely need to…

[00:29:43.430]
You need to build a reputation.

[00:29:46.320]
Okay.

[00:29:47.760]
Yeah.
Patient.

[00:29:50.080]
When I started my little entrepreneurship
journey in Mexico, I

[00:29:56.250]
came with a substantial amount of money,
I guess, especially Especially for Mexico.

[00:30:02.720]
I couldn’t imagine starting a business

[00:30:05.360]
in America and having to have savings
because there’s no health insurance.

[00:30:13.310]
You can’t just go to the doctor.

[00:30:15.350]
Yeah.
Yeah.

[00:30:17.590]
You’re all willy-nilly like you can
in Mexico or another country, which is…

[00:30:23.440]
After I’ve lived in another country,
it’s really crazy to me.

[00:30:28.450]
As someone that has

[00:30:30.920]
worked in the healthcare industry,
and I have family members that work

[00:30:34.390]
in the healthcare industry,
I gripe about it all the time.

[00:30:40.720]
That alone stifles entrepreneurship
in the United States.

[00:30:48.800]
But yeah, I’ll totally agree that you
definitely need some savings if you’re

[00:30:53.310]
going to pursue probably
pretty much anything in life.

[00:30:57.170]
Sure, that new career, entrepreneurship,

[00:30:59.810]
whatever, whatever, because
unfortunately, it may not work out.

[00:31:07.890]
Anything else you want to say?
No.

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I think that’s pretty much it.

[00:31:20.760]
And honestly,

[00:31:23.570]
if I would say one more thing,
because I’m a true believer

[00:31:29.720]
in And that you can love what you’re
doing and make money off of it.

[00:31:32.590]
So if

[00:31:35.730]
you really want to do something and you
really love whatever that is,

[00:31:40.730]
have belief in yourself, pursue it,
be patient, and definitely don’t give up.

[00:31:47.320]
And that’s something that’s a part of me

[00:31:52.290]
that caused a lot of restarting over
in so many areas in times of my life.

[00:31:59.490]
I I say caused a lot of setbacks because

[00:32:01.830]
I’ve attempted a couple
of different things.

[00:32:05.880]
It’s always a start.

[00:32:07.400]
You got to start from scratch again.
You get to start from scratch again.

[00:32:09.280]
You get to start from scratch again.

[00:32:10.770]
Just really know what you want to do
and then go all out.

[00:32:14.530]
Go all out, don’t stop,
and believe in yourself.

[00:32:20.160]
No, definitely.

[00:32:20.890]
I don’t like to call them setbacks
because everything’s a learning lesson.

[00:32:25.730]
It is.

[00:32:27.690]
To my point, what I mean is if you’re

[00:32:31.490]
starting from scratch every single time,
it is an experience.

[00:32:36.550]
But my brother would tell me,
Stay in doing one thing.

[00:32:43.050]
Lock in on this and then stay doing that

[00:32:46.210]
instead of like, I’m just tired of this
after I just invested money and time.

[00:32:50.050]
Whether it be school, because I was going
to be not a therapist, a psychologist.

[00:32:56.240]
I went to a community school back home
in Boston for a little bit working with…

[00:32:59.870]
I was working with high-risk teens,
and then I stopped going to school.

[00:33:03.840]
And then I was like,
What am I going to do now?

[00:33:05.310]
I thought about being a bobo.

[00:33:07.760]
And I didn’t pursue that.

[00:33:08.950]
I should have, could have,
whatever I didn’t.

[00:33:11.770]
And then became a trainer.

[00:33:15.720]
I see it as you’re trying to figure out

[00:33:22.600]
what you want to do,
which is perfectly fine.

[00:33:26.830]
And unfortunately, that costs time and it

[00:33:30.240]
costs money, and you ain’t
never going to get it back.

[00:33:31.930]
But once you find
what it is that you want to do,

[00:33:37.360]
you look back and be like,
Oh, it wasn’t really a waste.

[00:33:42.210]
You were learning along the way because

[00:33:45.510]
you took everything that you did and you
put it in your personal training.

[00:33:49.750]
I’m a thousand % sure of that.

[00:33:52.410]
But sometimes you got to do that in order
to find where you’re trying be.

[00:34:02.970]
When I was in Mexico,
for the first two years, I

[00:34:07.170]
told myself I wanted to learn Spanish,
but I wasn’t really learning it.

[00:34:11.650]
I just had to, number one,

[00:34:13.670]
mourn and number two, just figure
out the lay of the land, basically.

[00:34:19.970]
I’m in this huge city,
and I’m finding friends,

[00:34:24.390]
and learning where to go to the doctor,
and all that good stuff.

[00:34:31.050]
To me, when I was in the thick of it,
I was like, damn, you lost two years.

[00:34:36.360]
And I’m like, no, you don’t have to lose
two years because now you know a big-ass

[00:34:39.750]
city, and you got people you can kick
it when you go down there all the time.

[00:34:43.950]
I have a whole adopted family
and everything else now.

[00:34:49.390]
It’s really crazy.

[00:34:53.650]
You beat yourself up about it,
but in reality, you really shouldn’t.

[00:34:59.130]
So But yeah, that’s just how I see it.

[00:35:03.890]
And I agree.

[00:35:06.150]
I don’t disagree.

[00:35:08.200]
My thing is it’s really good to just own

[00:35:12.710]
in on something
instead of bouncing around.

[00:35:15.590]
But yeah, you do.

[00:35:16.790]
There’s always a positive,
and I do the same.

[00:35:19.390]
I always make sure that I see
the positive, the light in that.

[00:35:22.910]
It wasn’t a dark time, but I always
make sure that I look for that positive.

[00:35:27.570]
And I have a lot
of experiences from in that.

[00:35:32.320]
Yeah, definitely.
As long as you’re not hurting yourself or

[00:35:35.990]
anyone else, I don’t see
it as a serious loss.

[00:35:41.640]
You can get money again.

[00:35:45.310]
You may not get that time back,

[00:35:47.850]
but you take that experience
and use it probably every day now.

[00:35:53.570]
Was it really a loss?

[00:35:58.850]
No, it wasn’t.

[00:36:00.050]
It’s just your journey.

[00:36:02.490]
Just your journey.

[00:36:03.840]
Yeah.

[00:36:05.120]
All right, Joshua,
we’re going to close it out.

[00:36:09.200]
Thank you for coming on the show.

[00:36:12.010]
I appreciate it.

[00:36:14.450]
Tell me, tell people where to find you.

[00:36:18.610]
So you can find me on Instagram at
josh_bashan.

[00:36:24.610]
The last name is spelled B-A-C-H-A-N-D.

[00:36:27.490]
It’s the same exact for Facebook.

[00:36:31.130]
And all my information is
in there in my profile and my bio.

[00:36:35.370]
And look out for my merch.

[00:36:37.600]
I’m going to be starting that pretty soon.

[00:36:39.360]
It’s actually in the making right now.

[00:36:40.830]
I have my logo and everything else,
and we’re putting that out.

[00:36:44.810]
And yeah, just pushing along.

[00:36:47.850]
So if anybody wants to follow me or learn
anything that I have

[00:36:51.290]
that they can possibly be inspired by or
need help in, whatever, let me know.

[00:36:59.570]
Easy to reach.
All right.

[00:37:01.720]
Thank you, you all for listening,
watching wherever you all at.

[00:37:05.610]
My name is Elise Robinson with
Nobody Wants to Work, though, podcast.

[00:37:10.130]
And until next time

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